Healthy Discourse Podcast

by Dr. Wiggy and Emily Saunders

The Call To Act with Dr. Peter McCullough

In our favorite episode to date, Dr. Peter McCullough, joins Dr. Wiggy and Emily to discuss why and how he keeps fighting for truth and compassionate patient care despite being stripped from most every accolade and acclaimed position in his enviable career. Don’t miss this powerful, raw and real conversation with America’s most courageous doctor. Be sure to check out Dr. McCullough’s phenomenal book The Courage To Face COVID-19 on Amazon.

Managing Pain Without Medication with TJ McClurg PT

As we age we can begin to consider pain, especially from exercise, as a part of life. This does not have to be the case! TJ McClurg, PT joins the show to talk about a more natural approach and modalities to help with pain management and recovery, especially with athletes and those who are active.

COVID BA.5 Be Afraid? With Dr. Wiggy

The BA.5 variant is all over the news. Is it a big deal? Who is at risk? How is it treated? We also discuss Monkeypox and the WHO's recent declaration of a global health emergency.

The Current State of Medicine with Dr. Reni Moon

Dr. Reni Moon, a pediatrician for over 20 years, joins Emily to discuss the current state of medicine. As the daughter of immigrants who escaped communism, Reni offers a unique perspective as we discuss the themes of controlled narratives toward the public as well as in medical education and institutions. We also discuss the past two years' negative mental health impact on our nation's children. Healthy discourse is imperative for a nation to thrive. Are we at a critical juncture? Reni's perspective and experiences offer great insight into where we are and where we might be headed.

Starving The Fairytale with Emily Copeland

Women are fed messages around self-care and self-love at every turn. While self-care IS important, it's definition is too. It easily becomes a slippery slope for women to fall into a cycle of self-discovery, self-love, self-acceptance, self-reliance and ultimately self as God. Emily Copeland has just released a book, Starving The Fairytale, that dives deep into these themes and how they are causing destruction, even for Christian women. The messages of "own your truth", "follow your heart", "do more of what makes you happy", and "be true to yourself" might sound good on the surface, but ultimately, lead us away from God. Emily offers a refreshing and deep perspective on this spiral and how women can instead lean in on the Source of our worth in Jesus.

Babies and Young Children: What Does The Data Show? with Jessica Funk

Jessica Funk, DDS, concerned mom, and expert and sharing data in layman's terms, joins the show to dive into the data from the COVID-19 Pfizer trials for EUA in babies and young children. We discuss trial numbers, efficacy, adverse reactions, and holes in the data that are yet to be answered. Our hope is to provide questions for parents to consider and present to their pediatricians and healthcare providers.

20 Life Lessons As I Turn 40 with Emily

Emily just turned 40! In this heart felt episode, Emily candidly shares 20 big life lessons she's learned over the past decade in all areas of life. We hope you'll be encouraged as she discusses parenting, faith, fitness, marriage, and the wisdom that comes with a new decade.

Fluoride: An Experiment On Kids with Rick North

As parents, we've been told for years that fluoridated water is necessary for children and their teeth. Today, Rick North, joins the show to share about the history of fluoride research in kids, IQ and neurotoxicity concerns, and a new study in North Carolina through UNC Chapel Hill testing fluoridated bottled water on 3 month old to 4 year old's. If you aren't familiar with the negative effects of fluoride, this is a must listen. If you are, it's a must-listen as we dive into the details about this specific details of this new experiment on kids, despite a plethora of research.

ADHD: What Parents Need To Know with Dr. Nicole Craven

ADHD diagnoses are incredibly common among children today. Dr. Nicole Craven, Integrative Pediatrician, returns to the show to answer some questions submitted by parents about symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, therapies, medication and her approach to helping children struggling with ADHD. As with all medical challenges, every child is different and needs to be treated as such. This is a must listen episode for parents, educators and those who care for children.

All Things Hormonal Birth Control with Dr. Wiggy

In this listener requested episode, Wiggy and Emily discuss hormonal birth control, how it affects women's hormones, it's effectiveness in treating things like heavy cycles, PCOS, hypothalamic amenorrhea, the long term safety and fertility implications and much more. If you have a request please message us on Spotify or our Instagram or Facebook profiles.

Adrenal Fatigue 101 with Dr. Wiggy

Life is stressful! What is adrenal fatigue? Do you symptoms point to the possibility of adrenal fatigue? How is it tested and treated and what lifestyle choices matter the most? Dr. Wiggy provides a great overview. Being extremely tired is not "normal" no matter your age or life stage.

The Facts About Roe vs. Wade with Kimberly Jorgensen

Executive Director of Salem Pregnancy Center, Kimberly Jorgensen, joins the show to discuss the legal facts around Roe vs. Wade and the current case being considered at the Supreme Court. We discuss the specifics of the law, what actually happens if the case is overturned and some misconceptions around abortion law that are little known. Lots of important information in the short episode!

6 Tips To Bring Joy and Organization To Your Home with Tricia Sheehan

Do you feel overwhelmed in the space of your home? Is it hard for you to get rid of items that hold memories? Tricia Sheehan offers 6 practical and useful tips to help find joy in the space of your home.

Parents and Public Education: What You Need To Know with Sarah Absher School Board Candidate

School Board Candidate Sarah Absher joins the show to discuss an array of issues including informed consent, affirmation therapy, curriculum, medical interventions, and more. A must-listen episode for parents and voters.

Why Medical Freedom Matters In The 2022 Election

Why does medical freedom matter so much? How is medical freedom tied to parental rights? What does medical freedom even mean? Lots to discuss as we move into the 2022 Primaries.

Dry Needling 101 with Sara Lester PT

Sara Lester, Physical Therapist and Dry Needling expert, joins the show to share all about the basics of dry needling. If you struggle with muscular pain or injury, this one is for you!

Love Then Loss: How To Help Those Who Grieve with Debbie Baisden

Have you had a friend lose a spouse or loved one and had no idea what to do or say? Emily's friend and business partner, Debbie Baisden, returns to the podcast today to share her experience after suddenly losing her husband and becoming a single mom to four young boys. She offers tips about the helpful and not so helpful gestures and comments from others. She also shares her journey to finding love again through God's grace and her marriage to her husband Jason as she continues to honor her late husband's legacy.

20 to 40: A journey in identity and wisdom

Wiggy just turned 40 and we also celebrated 20 years together on that day. Today's episode is a bit different as we talk about wisdom and growth and identity and how basically everything has changed in those years as God has grown us individually and together.

How God Built This: The Momsanity Story with Debbie Baisden

Momsanity, a company that Emily helped found in 2013, writes quite a story. From meeting her business partner Debbie at small group, the sudden loss of Debbie's husband, Emily becoming a first time mom, to the early days of getting started and how God has used us and grown us over these past 9 years leaves only Him deserving the accolades. Our journey to build a company on the four pillars of motherhood, faith, fitness and nutrition is worth sharing. Today, Debbie joins the show as we share about our 9 year journey, the joys and struggles, as well as some practical tips for women feeling called to start something new.

The New Epidemic: Blood Clots, Cancer and Autoimmune with Dr. Wiggy

The aftermath of COVID has created a plethora of new health challenges. Today we discuss the top 3 as well as potential causes, diagnosis and treatment options.

Homeschooling Simplified with Taryn McGarry

The idea of Homeschooling Can be overwhelming for parents. But. It can be simplified. Taryn McGarry joins the show to bust some myths as we explore the real possibilities.

Back To Basics: Revisiting our Nation's Founding Documents with Scott Cumbie

Does the government have rights? What is the purpose of government? Why was the Declaration of Independence written? Scott Cumbie joins the show to share his expertise and help us remember what it means to be a citizen.

Our Thoughts On The New COVID Narrative with Dr. Wiggy

Is COVID over? Why drop the masks and vax mandates now? Now we have antivirals that can be given out at pharmacies? Has the science changed or is it something else?

The Lyme Controversy with Dr. Wiggy

Does chronic Lyme exist? What is Lyme Disease? How is it tested and treated? Why don't most doctors treat Lyme? And more.

Should "Safety" Be A Top Priority In Parenting? with Carla Ledford

Culture tells us that safety is a top priority in parenting. Today Carla Ledford, mom of 5, joins Emily to dive deep into balancing safety and responsibility/training in a manner that best prepares our kids for life.

Perspective Is Everything with Hank Allen

Hank Allen joins the show to share his story. Hank suffered a spinal cord injury several years ago and today shares about his recovery journey and how he has chosen to embrace life and the opportunities in front of him. Hank's encouraging attitude is sure to inspire. He recently launched a new business, Hank Hats, with the goal of assisting others suffering injuries with the care they need. A must listen episode and perfect for the whole family!

Long Haul COVID: Symptoms, Testing and Treatments with Dr. Wiggy

Lingering symptoms are a problem for many. The good news is that we CAN do something about it. Dr. Wiggy shares what's happening physiologically, tests and treatments.

What Parents Need To Know About Winter Viruses with Dr. Nicole Craven

Viruses are part of childhood. We live in a culture that tells us to avoid illness at all costs, but is this the best approach for our kids? What if we focus our energy instead on optimizing our families immune systems through both prevention and early intervention? Dr. Nicole joins Emily today with some practical advice and tips for families to confidently address childhood viruses.

Thriving During The Busy Years with Dr. Wiggy and Emily

"I don't know how you do it all". We don't! Today's episode is all about identity, priorities and boundaries and how they guide our lives in the big and little things. We dive into faith, marriage, kids and everything else.

What We Are Still Learning About COVID with Dr. Wiggy

Dr. Wiggy shares new information, observations, clinical updates, and data that we continue to learn about COVID from the frontlines.

Timeless Wisdom From Granny with Jena Penner

Emily is joined by longtime friend and Mom of 7, Jena Penner (her life story is amazing) to discuss lessons she learned from her amazing Granny. As we move into 2022, these timeless truths and practical tips are perfect for reflection in the New Year.

Know Your Numbers: Four Blood Tests That Will Help You Optimize Your Health In 2022 with Dr Wiggy

Want to get healthy this year? It's good to know our starting point in order to set smart goals. Wiggy shares the four most telling blood tests for overall health and Emily shares a few practical lifestyle habits. Here's to a healthier 2022!

2021 Year In Review

It's been quite a year for the Saunders family as we set out to intentionally abide in what God had for us. Today we discuss all that's happened personally and professionally and our focuses for 2022.

Myocarditis: What You Need To Know with Dave Kay, MD and Dr. Wiggy

Cardiologist Dave Kay joins Dr. Wiggy and Emily to discuss myocarditis. What is it? What are the causes? What are the risks of COVID infection induced myocarditis? How about those from the COVID vaccines? We also take a deep dive into the numbers of the risks of children and myocarditis with and without the vaccines, treatment, long term prognosis and more. Dave is a plethora of knowledge, knows the data, and desires to help us make the best risk/benefit choices for our families.

Simplifying The Christmas Season

Feeling overwhelmed? Emily talks through some Saunders family traditions that help our family to focus on the meaning of Christmas while prioritizing relationships over busyness and comparison. Merry Christmas!

Omicron: What should we expect? with Dr. Wiggy

Omicron is here. Should we be worried? Is the advice of those in charge going to help? Plus some tips on navigating stressful holiday conversations and tension.

Technology: What Every Parent Needs To Know with Jason Ledford

Our kids are growing up in a much different world than we did and technology is a huge part of that. Our friend and pastor Jason Ledford, dad of 5 kids, provides us with some sobering statistics, tips for establishing real life boundaries, resources and imperative conversations we must have with our children to prepare them for screens.

Kids: What Does The Research Actually Say? with Staci Kay NP

Today my friend and expert researcher, Staci Kay NP, joins the show to discuss the research provided during Pfizer's vaccine trials on kids ages 5 to 11. We dive into the facts that we do know as well as the missing pieces in the research as well as what's happening in other countries. Parents, do your research and ask the questions, it's imperative!

Natural Immunity 101 with Dr. Wiggy

Today Dr. Wiggy teaches us about the basics of the immune system and why focusing on antibodies alone is shortsighted when considering immune status. We also dive into vaccinated immunity functions and compare and contrast the two. So many are confused on this topic so be sure to share with friends.

5 Tips For Picky Eaters

Kids won't eat what you feed them? Emily lays out five practical tips to help you quit the battle and help your kids become lifelong healthy eaters. Share this quick episode with the parents in your life!

Healthcare: How did we get here? An overview with Charlie Mulligan

Charlie Mulligan is a grassroots activist and future political candidate and a friend of Healthy Discourse. Are we actually making people healthier? Today we dive deep into the state of our nation's healthcare system, how we got here and how citizens can help drive necessary changes. We also talk about how healthcare providers become silenced by our current system and ultimately the patient suffers..

Pre and Post: What You CAN do with Dr. Wiggy

Some are making impossible choices. Some have lingering symptoms. Some are trying to prepare. Others are injured. Dr. Wiggy offers some ideas that are working for each step of the journey. Listen in for important information for you and your loved ones.

The Fatherless Epidemic with Jeff Zenger

NC Representative and friend Jeff Zenger joins the show today to discuss the Fatherless Epidemic in the US including how we got here, how to encourage boys to become responsible men, and how to support men in their roles as fathers. This is an important topic for EVERYONE!

Special Episode: Are The Kids Next? with renowned pediatrician Bose Ravenel

Parents we need to be paying close attention. It's time to do your research, ask questions and carefully consider the consequences. Dr. Ravenel bluntly lays out everything parents need to know. A must listen indeed.

How To Find Food Freedom Forever with Jane Daniel

After 15 years of working with women working toward healthier lifestyles, Emily and Health Coach Jane Daniel have discovered the root of the problem with lasting results and habits. Today we dive deep into why women are chained to food and how to find freedom forever. Spoiler Alert: It's not another meal plan or program. We hope you'll join us for The Liberation Project that begins on November 1st.

Face Off With Your Feelings with Jessica Hottle

Are you struggling with battling your feelings internally? Jessica Hottle joins the show today to help us learn how to more effectively face off with our feelings. We talk about creating a space to heal the tender places of your soul, five steps to help us manage our emotions, and establishing that our feelings are safe with God. In a time when there are SO MANY emotions, Jessica help us experience God's love through it all.

Greenwashing: Are Your Personal Care Products ACTUALLY Safe? with Roxanne Underwood

Have you heard of greenwashing? Today Emily's guest, Roxanne Underwood, shares what it is, why it matters, how to spot it, and a few brands to watch out for, plus our favorite TRULY toxin-free personal care products. You might be surprised at some of the brands that end up on the "naughty" list.

Good News from the Front Lines and Pharmacy Tips with Dr. Wiggy

We are grateful to be able to deliver some good news from the front lines of the pandemic especially when it comes to early treatment! Plus tips on getting prescriptions filled when challenges arise.

The Challenges Of Mandates with Dr. Wiggy

Dr. Wiggy joins the show to discuss the new nationwide mandates and the potential changes they pose.

Myth Busters: Ivermectin with Dr. Wiggy

Is Ivermectin just for horses? Safe? Effective? Dr. Wiggy joins the show to dive in.

Prevention and Treatment: A Proactive Approach to COVID with Dr. Wiggy

We are told that there is "no way" to prevent or treat COVID outside of a vaccine. Research tells us differently. Dr. Wiggy joins the show to discuss the studies and best practices.

Why Anxiety Is Attacking Our Kids and What Can We Do About It with Dr. Nicole Craven

Anxiety is rampant among our children and young people. Dr. Nicole joins Emily to discuss why, the mental and physical root causes and symptoms, and testing and treatment options.

Vaccine Update: Digging In To The Data with Dr. Wiggy

Dr. Wiggy joins the show with Michael Phillips to dig deeper into vaccine research and data.

Don't Let Kids Run Your Marriage

We just celebrated 16 years of marriage and today's episode is all about keeping God first, marriage second and kids third in our families. Culture tells us that kids should be the center of our families but is that God's design and is it actually best for kids?

Better Than Antibodies? with Dr. Wiggy

Wiggy joins me today to discuss a promising new T cell test that can be very useful in determining natural immunity to COVID. Learn more about the difference in T cells and antibodies and what we know about natural immunity.

Special Episode: What Parents Need To Know about Mask and Vaccine Mandates with Dr. Bose Ravenel

Renowned pediatrician Bose Ravenel joins Emily on the show to discuss the very prevalent topic facing our culture. Schools and work places are beginning to mandate masks and vaccines Dr. Ravenel has 46 years of experience as a practicing and researching pediatrician and has spent the past 2 years researching COVID. masks, vaccines and more. Today we dive into the hot topic of masks and vaccines. What parents need to know and how you can fight for medical freedom.

Is The Military Becoming A Social Experiment? with Harold Eustache

Emily welcomes 101st Airborne Elite Veteran and Attorney, Harold Eustache to the show to discuss recent changes in our nation's military and why we should all be paying attention. While this challenge might not be on the forefront of the news, it's something we should definitely be paying attention to as responsible citizens.

Losing Weight Without Counting Calories with Jane Daniel

Today Emily's friend and colleague Jane Daniel is back on the show to talk about calories. The truth is they DO matter, but they aren't the MOST important factor in weight loss and by focusing too much on calories we can actually hinder our results. Today we dig into misconceptions and tips that can help you stop beating your head against the wall and achieve the results you desire.

What Parents Need To Know About Food Intolerances In Kids with Nicole Craven, MD

We are so excited to invite Dr. Nicole Craven back to the show! We hear all about food allergies and the many problems they can cause, but most parents don't understand the intricacies. How do food intolerances present (hint: it's not all about stomach problems or big reactions)? How can parents appropriately test kids? What are some steps for getting started with food elimination? Plus Dr. Nicole shares with us a new cutting edge treatment that really helps kids!

9 Lessons I've Learned in my 30s with Emily

Today's episode is a bit different! Emily shares 9 big lessons she's learned during her 30s. From becoming a mom to strengthening marriage and becoming an entrepreneur. So much has happened during the past 9 years so let's dive in to all things parenthood, faith, health and relationships.

Headaches: Why they happen and what to do about them with Dr. Wiggy

In today's episode Dr. Wiggy addresses the many causes of headaches, different types, identifying root causes and typical integrative treatments. There is hope!

Vitamins for Kids? Why they are Important and What to Look For with Dr. Nicole Craven

Today Emily welcomes Dr. Nicole Craven MD, an integrative pediatrician that works with Dr. Wiggy at Robinhood Integrative Health all about vitamins for kids. How many kids are deficient? Why? What are the most important vitamins and minerals? How do we find quality supplements among the thousands available? And more! A must listen for parents!

When Conflict and Cancellation Strike

Today Emily shares her thoughts and experience on the prevalent topic of conflict and cancellation. It's inevitable that not everyone will like us, but it can be difficult to go against the grain when we feel attacked or misunderstood. Our response is everything. Keeping our power under control goes a long way to preserve relationships and seeking Truth is the best way to grow in humility and discernment. Are we checking ourselves to make sure we aren't seeking a reaction? So many hot topics in this episode!

The Important Basics of Female Hormones with Dr. Wiggy

Too many women are suffering in silence from unbalanced hormones that negatively affect their quality of life. This episode digs into the primary female hormones, what they are responsible for, how to tell if they are unbalanced, when and what to test, and practical tips for working with your medical provider to address your personal challenges. Oral contraceptives are NOT your only option for addressing your mood swings, cramps, PCOS, heavy or irregular periods and more.

Water Safety Tips for Parents with Briley Penner

Today Emily interviews Briley Penner from Swim Safe NC to discuss water safety for parents. Briley shares about helping kids to become more comfortable around water, boundaries for parents, backyard pool safety and technology, and flotation devices. Lots of great information in this short episode!

The State of the Service Industry and What The Future Holds with Algenon Cash

Algenon Cash is an investment banker and founder of the Triad Food and Beverage Coalition. He's a mover and shaker in the NC Triad business community and today he shares fresh insight into the service industry's current status, the root of staffing issues, and what the future holds. We also dive into the overall economy and how consumers can help support small businesses in our quickly evolving economy.

Teaching Responsibility In the Age of Lawnmower Parenting with Carla Ledford

Have you heard of Lawnmower parenting? We live in a culture that tells us to remove obstacles for our kids, but is that helping them become responsible adults? In this episode, Emily sits down with her friend Carla (a mom of 5) to dig into how we got here, common pitfalls, life lessons learned through personal responsibility, and practical ways to prepare the next generation for real life. It's a rich conversation with lots of personal application. A must listen for parents!

3 Mindset Switches to Stop the Yo-yo with Jane Daniel

Emily sits down with her friend and health coach, Jane Daniel, to discuss the 3 biggest mindset switches that can help stop the yoyo in dieting and in life when it comes to long-term habit change. They share personal examples and practical implementation tips to help your journey become more joyful and rewarding.

COVID Vaccines and Mandates - an Update with Dr. Wiggy

Dr. Wiggy joins Emily today to discuss updates to the COVID vaccines, the new problems with the J&J vaccine, what we know and don't know so far about the MRNA vaccines, and the problems with vaccine mandates.

Thoughts, Feelings and the TRUTH with Jessica Hottle

Today Emily interviews author, Podcaster and faith-based fitness coach Jessica Hottle to host a conversation about our thoughts and feelings as we seek Truth. Jessica has a lot of experience and insight to share on the topic around processing thoughts and feelings in a productive and healing manner and so much more!

Autoimmune Disease: What, Why and how to treat with Dr. Wiggy

Dr. Wiggy dives into autoimmune Disease and answers about how to recognize, test and effectively treat from an integrative standpoint. We also touch on the COVID vaccine and autoimmune.

5 Tips For Parents with Constipated Kids with The Constipation Gurus

Does your child struggle with chronic constipation? Are you overwhelmed with using Miralax over and over without long term relief? Are you seeking to find out the root problem leading to your child's constipation? Jessica and Annette from The Constipation Gurus join Emily with 5 great tips for parents.

Is Modern Day Feminism Actually Progressing Women?

In this episode Wiggy interviews Emily on modern Feminism. Does the cultural push toward female dominance actually help women? How can we ask bigger questions for the long term benefit of women and families?

A Different Perspective on the COVID Response with Dr. Wiggy

Shut downs, treatments, immune support, vaccines and more. Would a different response have produced better outcomes? What can we learn for the next time we experience a public health crisis? Dr. Wiggy shares his thoughts and some points to consider moving forward.

Is Science Settled? with Tricia Sheehan

The mainstream narrative tells us to "trust the science" and that questions are not acceptable and in fact can result in cancellation and censorship.  In today's episode, Emily discusses Science vs. Scientism and how to become a better researcher with Holistic Health Coach and Certified Essential Oils Coach, Tricia Sheehan. 

How Limiting Beliefs Sabotage Your Health Journey with Jane Daniel

My friend and colleague Jane Daniel joins me to dig deep and personally into the BIGGEST reasons we can't get and stay healthy. Hint: it's not your meal plan.

Thyroid Basics: Symptoms, Testing and Treatment with Dr. Wiggy

Have you been told that your thyroid is normal because of a TSH test? Do you feel exhausted but no one can figure out why? Is your medication actually helping? Dr. Wiggy shares helpful and concise answers for everyday people.

Pelvic Floor Issues: Pregnancy, Postpartum and Beyond with Katie Taylor

Katie Taylor, PT, DPT, CLT, OCS joins Emily to discuss women's wellness during and after pregnancy. Let's dive into all the hard topics like incontinence, pain during intercourse and pain and what we can do about them! 

What Really Happens In Pregnancy Care Centers with Guest Dottie Powers

Dottie Powers, Center Director of Salem Pregnancy Care Center, joins Emily to discuss myths and misconceptions about pregnancy care centers and abortion providers. We dive into statistics, reality and how we can invest in the lives of Moms and Dads facing unplanned pregnancy. 

The COVID Vaccine Q&A with Dr. Wiggy

Healthy Discourse with Dr. Wiggy and Emily Saunders • Feb 12

Today we dive deeper into the questions to consider, the research we have, what we DON'T know and more about the COVID Vaccine.

February 5, 2021

Introducing Healthy Discourse

Why we started this podcast and what you can expect in the future. It's time for Healthy Discourse!